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Old 06-25-2009   #21 (permalink)
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I feel so helpless here in the USA. My heart breaks for all the martyrs and everyone involved in this struggle. How can we help?

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I think this should have been obvious by now .... the international internet is no longer a viable tool for coordinating or planning future events. It give basiji a time and place to be. It could be very useful conduit for mis-information so that basiji epend resources in wrong place.

However, that does not significantly diminish the impact of twitter or you-tube. Khamenei is doing great harm to Islam. IMO, that is how Khamenei is peacefully defeated. The guys in Qom get fed up with you-tube clips showing how the islamic republic of Iran beats up unarmed civillians (who, by the way, are simply trying to excercise their constitutional right #27). If I was Mousavi, I would have told every single one of the demonstrators not come without their qoran ... and then the scholars in Qom get to see the women using the qoran to deflect blows from basiji thugs. but now I ramble. Twitter is a tool of political pressure. It's use as an orginizational tool is finished.
Carrying the Qur'an has been a very successful gesture, and has shown that these are people who support the principle of what the current government should be about (democratic government that strives to live within moral and spiritual guidelines) but who are outraged and angry at the people running it.

Let Khamenei's government be bombarded with just how un-Islamic they really are. Let their own hypocracy be their undoing.
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I feel so helpless here in the USA. My heart breaks for all the martyrs and everyone involved in this struggle. How can we help?

~~Cheryl in Tacoma, WA
Cheryl just hop on the train and you will find something, there is a thread somewhere that says what can be done from the USA but the board is moving fast right now , it will show up in a few and I will look for it and bump it if i see it..

Even just getting the updates and spreading it accounts for doing something..
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I pray for you the Iran people that you get your freedom. I want to know how I can help. I can't do some of the tech savvy things computer people do but I sure want to help somehow. I just dont know how. All the violence, the beatings and death is breaking my heart.
 
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Agreed. We should start discussing ways to make coordination more difficult to track down for those on the ground, if you now what I mean.
Operation Schrödinger Protest?

Where? What time?
 
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I think this should have been obvious by now .... the international internet is no longer a viable tool for coordinating or planning future events.
The moment Twitter hit the media, it was no longer useful as a way to blindly organize the protests. The initial surprise from using it would've begun to stagnate. It's now limited to updating the rest of the world on what's going on. But even that has reached its point, since the only ones who can do trusted data-gathering and the subsequent compilations of it are those who established followers from before Twitter was mentioned on the news. Only other use for it now is, as mentioned, disinformation and morale.
 
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I'm sorry?
It's a joke on the idea of Schrödinger's Cat, a thought experiment in quantum physics. In other words, the protest may happen at a particular place and time, or it may not. You don't know until it happens.
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Hi thanks for the great brave work.
If you are in Tehran - is there any way to get an idea of the body count from the hospitals. A doctor sent iReport blog saying bodies are being forcefully removed by security forces, but hospitals are still keeping count. This will give clearer idea of how many people have been killed. The world needs to know.
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