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Old 07-07-2009   #71 (permalink)
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I have a general question I wand answered before I try something harmful (to the Iranian backbone instead just gerdab.ir):

I just remembered that a while a go I got the webpage of a convention to crash by accident (at least I'm pretty sure it was me, since I did it again the next day):

I did some data mining once, getting the addresses of companies that attended that convention out from the homepage, by using one of those tools that scan the page for you, look for keywords, save content to your harddrive so you can further filter it later etc.

Being new (back then) to this matter it seems I had the software running on pretty server-unfriendly settings - opening too many threads at once, things like that. Which after a while sent the server down - it didn't block my IP, it was gone for several hours (until, I assume, someone noticed and reset it).

Now - before I try achieving something similar on gerdab.ir: I suspect that doing that would be similar to attempting a DDos attack - I mean possibly blocking the Iranian backbone for our friends as well?

If someone more tech-savy than me understands what I try to explain and can tell me it *isn't* bad for Iranian net, I'd be happy to give it a try on gerdab.ir, otherwise, of course, not.
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I have a general question I wand answered before I try something harmful (to the Iranian backbone instead just gerdab.ir):

I just remembered that a while a go I got the webpage of a convention to crash by accident (at least I'm pretty sure it was me, since I did it again the next day):

I did some data mining once, getting the addresses of companies that attended that convention out from the homepage, by using one of those tools that scan the page for you, look for keywords, save content to your harddrive so you can further filter it later etc.

Being new (back then) to this matter it seems I had the software running on pretty server-unfriendly settings - opening too many threads at once, things like that. Which after a while sent the server down - it didn't block my IP, it was gone for several hours (until, I assume, someone noticed and reset it).

Now - before I try achieving something similar on gerdab.ir: I suspect that doing that would be similar to attempting a DDos attack - I mean possibly blocking the Iranian backbone for our friends as well?

If someone more tech-savy than me understands what I try to explain and can tell me it *isn't* bad for Iranian net, I'd be happy to give it a try on gerdab.ir, otherwise, of course, not.
In my view, Gerdab is the exception to the "don't DDoS" rule, because it is justified.

That's just me, though.
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I say hit gerdab.ir with anything and everything you have. This has become almost a personal war of the wills and endurance. Taking it out would be a major moral victory. Hack it, slash it, burn it, anything goes.
 
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In my view, Gerdab is the exception to the "don't DDoS" rule, because it is justified.

That's just me, though.
But still I'd like to know: Is what I'm thinking about like a DDos in that regard? Or worse? Or better?
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But still I'd like to know: Is what I'm thinking about like a DDos in that regard? Or worse? Or better?
Ah, now that I don't know, I'm afraid.
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Now - before I try achieving something similar on gerdab.ir: I suspect that doing that would be similar to attempting a DDos attack - I mean possibly blocking the Iranian backbone for our friends as well?
If you host a proxy on your system, it's strongly recommended not to attack Gerdab because they will probably block your IP on national gateways (I doubt if they are that smart, but it's possible that they have hired some black hats for their dirty business).
I'll suggest putting this warning in the next version of Nedasites: people who run a proxy or service for Iranians, should NOT DDoS gerdab or any other Iranians site because their IP will [probably] be blocked.
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I did some data mining once, getting the addresses of companies that attended that convention out from the homepage, by using one of those tools that scan the page for you, look for keywords, save content to your harddrive so you can further filter it later etc.

Being new (back then) to this matter it seems I had the software running on pretty server-unfriendly settings - opening too many threads at once, things like that. Which after a while sent the server down - it didn't block my IP, it was gone for several hours (until, I assume, someone noticed and reset it).

Now - before I try achieving something similar on gerdab.ir: I suspect that doing that would be similar to attempting a DDos attack - I mean possibly blocking the Iranian backbone for our friends as well?
What you did is not technically a DDoS attack. You just overstressed a weak server. For a DDoS attack more than one computers should attack a server (usually controlled from a central station manually or automatically).
However, in that sense, Nedasites is also an independent server stress program. It's not controlled centrally either (though we have a suggestion list and in the next version the list will be fixed).
But generally speaking, you can use your program to achieve the same (or even better) results as Nedasites. You just need to overstress the server...
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Think of it as opening every page on the site and constantly saving/downloading/refreshing each one. Nothing wrong with that.

And even if there was, this is gerdab.ir we're talking about here. No rest for the wicked.
 
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I say hit gerdab.ir with anything and everything you have. This has become almost a personal war of the wills and endurance. Taking it out would be a major moral victory. Hack it, slash it, burn it, anything goes.
Speaking of wills, I wonder if they were secretly behind twitter's recent hashtagpush woes...?
 
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I say hit gerdab.ir with anything and everything you have. This has become almost a personal war of the wills and endurance. Taking it out would be a major moral victory. Hack it, slash it, burn it, anything goes.
This this this a thousand times this
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