Anonymous Iran

Primrose

Greetings
DO NOT REMOVE ANY OBJECTS FROM THE BODY UNLESS THE PATIENT IS HAVING PROBLEMS FROM THE OBJECT BREATHING! Removing an object can cause more trauma and can create internal bleeding and death!

There are many things being used on the people of Iran from what I am reading and one is gas...
I would like to see a post from someone in the area telling me what they are using agents the protesters please so I can help further.
They are dropping chemicals now from what I have just heard on the news and I need to know what it is or what it is doing please post back!


Gas / chem ...
Depending on the gas used please remove the person from the area
Remove clothing.
Flush eyes and nose with water.
Watch patents for any problems with breathing.

If body is hit with a substance wipe off the patients face *AWAY FROM EYES AND NOSE* remove them from the area and then remove clothing.. watch patient for breathing problems!

Anyone helping a patients please make sure the gas or chemical does NOT get on your body also!

In many cases with gases there will be a lot of stuff coming out of there nose wipe this off!
If they are unconscious please make sure this discharge does not block airway! It can be thick!
If you have to walk away for a moment please place patient on there left side and pull up the right leg to help prop them up.

Gunshot...
This depends on the part of the body hit and is very very hard because usually internal damage is also taking place.
Keep patients calm and use towels and hold lightly on the wound. If the bullet has exited the body also put a towel in the exit area. Roll the patient gently on there side with help and see if there is another wound on there back. When you roll the patient pretend there body is a board and you must not let there body bend or move and must be kept straight because this can create more damage to them! I am aware that they are taking patients from the hospital and if a person has been hit in the torso they must be taken to the hospital!!! If you do not sadly they may die
These patents will be in pain and I do not suggest you give them any thing even water! You may use ice on the area as suggested above BUT there own body will shift into a shock if the wound is bad and there bodies will take care of the pain better then you will be able to with out the drugs and medical training.

If hit in arm or leg and bleeding can be stopped? use towels and hold light pressure to the wound. Keep patients calm and talk to them they will tell you how they are better then your eyes will. then fallow the instructions for broken bones!
Roll up towels and gently place the towels around the area use tape to hold the towels in place.
For legs push on the big toe nail and see if it changes back to pink again on the nail bed! If it is the arm push on the finger nail and see if it goes pink again.
If it does not then take them to the hospital if it is safe!
Any moment of the area shot can create bleeding and further damage to the patient!

Broken bones...Broken bones that have not punched thru the skin..
Roll up towels and gently place the towels around the area use tape to hold the towels in place.
For legs push on the big toe nail and see if it changes back to pink again on the nail bed! If it is the arm push on the finger nail and see if it goes pink again.
If it does not then take them to the hospital if it is safe!

This information is being posted as fast as I can type and I will be checking back and I take no fault nor liabilities in any injuries that take place to the patients and to anyone that is helping the patent! This is intended to help in any way as fast as I can....

Love and light to you all! You are in my heart!!

Rose

Unregistered

One of the best resources ever made for treating Battle Wounds or everyday wounds..this is what united States military carries..

This manual is in PDF (Adobe)

Also notice it says Approved for PUBLIC use..


Short Link (Tiny for posting etc)
http://tinyurl.com/m2bmqn

Actual Link(source)
http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/milmed/first.pdf

Unregistered

These are some ways to treat the majority of injuries. This will help avoid the hospitals.

Above all, get to safety. Move the person if you have to.

The first thing to do is assess the injuried. Do the following:

Check for responsiveness Ask "Are you OK?" in a loud voice.

Check for breathing Put your ear near the nose and mouth, and watch for the chest to rise and fall. You can also hold a mirror under the nose.

Check for bleeding. Look for red stains on clothing, on the ground.

Check for shock. Someone in shock will be pale, sweaty, and confused. They may have blue lips and fingernails.

Check for broken bones. Carefully feel along arms, legs, neck, and around the skull. If it feels wrong or out of place, treat it.

Check for closed head injuries. Look for a clear, sweet fluid leaking from ears, nose, or around eyes.

Next, begin treatment. If someone is not breathing, lay them on their back. Put the palm of one hand on the forhead, and fingertips of the other hand under the chin bone. Press down and back with your forehand hand, and lift up with your fingers on the chin. This will open the airway, and most times, people will begin to breathe again. If not, pinch the persons nose shut. Open their mouth, seal your lips around there's, and blow forcefully. Watch to see the chest rise. Continue doing this until they can breathe on their own.

To treat bleeding, find where the bleeding is coming from. If it is a gunshot wound, look for an exit hole. Use anything clean you have on hand to tie the wound closed. Tie it tight enough so that you can slip two fingers under the bandage. Using your hand, place pressure on the wound for around 5 minutes. If it is still bleeding, take a second piece of cloth. Bunch it up, place it directly over the wound, and tie this down. It should be one-finger tight. Keep pressure on the wound for another 5 minutes. If it continues to bleed, locate a stick, metal rod, anthing sturdy about fore-arms length. Take another strip of cloth, one palm's width wide. Wrap it around the arm or leg, two inches above the wound, or two inches above a joint. Tie it tightly. Place your stick on that knot, and tie it down. Twist the stick until the bleeding stops, then use the free ends to tie off stick so it does not move. This is a tourniquet. Write the time on the person's forehead.

For a wound to the chest, seal it shut with a piece of plastic, that overlaps the edges of the wound. If you have it, tape it on three sides. if not, tie a strip of cloth around the chest, tight enough to hold the plastic in place.

If someone is wounded badly, they may go into shock. To treat that, move them out of the sun, into a shady, protected area.If there are no leg injuries, have the person lay on their back, and prop their legs up. You can give them cool sips of water, not a lot. Don't give them anything to drink if they have a head injury. Even if you treat everything else, this can kill someone, so it's important.

You may need to splint a broken bone. The best thing to use for this, is any board, pipe, anything solid and rigid. for arms and legs, you want to tietwo boards, pipes, or anything else to the arm or leg. Tie it twice over, and twice under the wound, using four pieces of cloth. Make sure to include the major joint above the break. If someone has a broken arm, make sure the elbow can't move.

To brace broken ribs, take an arm and put it in a sling. Then tie the sling, and arm, around the person's body, snug against the chest. If you think someone has a broken back, broken hips, or neck, the best thing to do is carefully roll them onto something like a door. Use pillows next to the head, and tie them to the door securely. If you have nothing to splint with, tie the broken body part to the unbroken one. Tie the legs together, tie the arms to the chest. Anything you can do to prevent movement.

If you think someone has a broken skull, carefully tie a pillow around the head, leaving the face clear. Try not to move them too much.

To protect against tear gas, use a wet towel tied around your face. Keep water handy to quickly rinse out of eyes. You can also use plastic sheeting, and tape to cover your skin. Tear gas will STOP WORKING if you are in it long enough. Just stay calm, and take short breaths until you can get free.

This is more technical, but if you can, find a drug store. Look for antibiotics. Any type will work. Give those to anyone who is hurt, to lessen the chance of infection.

Don't try to remove bullets, or anything like that, unless you can clearly see them from the skin. You'll hurt someone worse if you try.

RichardCranium

in Chapter 3 on page 3/4 in the book 2 posts up (combat first aid)it goes over Chest wounds or what are called in combat sucking chest wounds.. these are pretty much the most common wound in armed combat (war)

A Gunshot Directly to the chest which punctures the lung/lungs and can kill in minutes unless you know what to do..

if you will be facing guns i suggest you familiarize yourself with this wound immediately!!

Unregistered

I'm a trained first responder and have been in a few riots and multi-casualty situations.

1 - If they aren't breathing or have no pulse, they're dead! You don't have the luxury of doing proper CPR, and you may be tying up resources that can save someone else, or get shot while doing it.

Help anyone who can be saved and mourn the rest later.

Safety means getting out of the combat zone as fast as possible before more injuries happen.

2 - Learn the "log roll carry" and the 2-person "buddy chair" carry so you can get people to a quieter spot. Even the "fireman's carry", although it's going to make some injuries worse.

3 - If you have to drag a person, sit behind them, grab their torso and push both of you backwards with your feet.

4 - Carry some clean t-shirts or towels. If it's bleeding, push a clean cloth on it with sufficient pressure and get them out of there. T-shirt strips make decent ties. A roll of duct tape is handy for splinting, covering sucking chest wounds, and other stuff.

DO NOT APPLY TOURNIQUETS UNLESS YOU ARE HEADED FOR A HOSPITAL REAL SOON ... please. Direct pressure on the wound, or to a pressure point above the wound is way better than a tourniquet.

5 - Head injuries can be fatal hours later. If someone takes a hit to the head, get them out of there with a partner who can monitor their alertness. Vomiting, headache, and repeatedly asking the same question are BAD.

6 - Temporary splints to broken bones can be rigged out of newspapers, magazines or a strip of cardboard - just to prevent further damage, not too tight. I ship a lot of people splinted with a triangular tube of cardboard under their busted forearm, with gauze holding it all immobile.

Here's the trick: Immobilize above and below the broken part so nothing can flop around and move the bones. Forearms are immobilized at the hand and just below elbow. Broken lower leg bones require the ankle be immobilized too. A u-shaped length of cardboard can do it for you.

Buddy splint - tape the good leg to the bad leg, matching knees, ankles and toes.

7 - The person playing medic is vulnerable, because they are not paying attention to their surroundings. You need to designate one or two people to guard the medics and let them know when they need to leave the scene. You don't want to lose your medic!

Freedom4AllFTW

Maybe you can find a way to get oxygen bottles to give to those with trouble breathing.

Unregistered

You do realize that there is a difference between medical oxygen and oxygen, do you not ?

Unregistered

What is it with you and the oxygen? Are you an oxygen salesmen or something?

rampant

I am retired ER Doc - will just add few quick things:
1. Any head injury may also have neck injury. If neck is fractured, any neck movement could damage spine & cause paralysis, so keep neck straight when you log roll patient onto stretcher. Then use duct tape running across to immobilize head, shoulders, chest, pelvis - keep spine in one straight line. (Before putting on duct tape, wedge rolled up towels on either side head & neck.)
2. To sterilize needle, place in boiling water few minutes & let cool. (Don't use flame - needle will get sooty & cause a tattoo!)
3. Pelvic fractures bleed massively, so if you suspect one, put a folded sheet cross-wise under patient buttocks and tie it together tightly across front of pelvis. In doing this, you will reduce the fracture and decrease bleeding so much that you may save a life or, at least obviate the need for a blood transfusion.

موش

"rampant" - can you (or someone?) better make a description of how this works I think it is important, but I can not understand how the (blanket) goes.

This is important for bad falls and people getting runned over by a car.

Thank you!

موش