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YouTube - How to use police tactics against a baton

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Safe Riding Tips:

Any motorcyclist knows that he cannot release his RIGHT hand from the throttle or his speed will be reduced (engine braking) and his control of the bike seriously impaired. If that hand doesn't work properly neither will the bike.

A rider cannot drop below the level of his fuel tank and his passenger sits taller. Rope or cable or power line across the path of travel is a hazard, so ride carefully.

Motorcycles are vulnerable vehicles that LIMIT what riders can do. If a motorcycle is coming at someone and they sidestep but deflect the handlebar, the bike can easily go down in the OPPOSITE direction due to the way motorcycles steer.

Beware detergent and oil on roads. Dual-purpose bikes with semi-knobby tyres can easily skid in the wet.
Unlike cars, motorcycles fall over when they lose traction.

Ray Murphy

Yes, I discovered years ago on a slight bend in the road that even a tiny amount of oil smaller than a human hand can make a motor cycle go into a slide and have you dusting yourself off. I suspect that bright green oil would be more slippery.

Incidentally, does anyone know if motor bikes still use those rubber/plastic fuel hoses from the tank to the carby? If so, it pays to keep your scissors and box cutters well away from them because you can never find a replacement hose in a hurry if you um accidentally slice them.

watsongs2012

VERY GOOD POINTS!! I also learned the hard way that even a small amount of sand on the road can cause you to laydown if you're not going perfectly straight. Wanna watch for that!

Ray Murphy

Ok, I'll keep an eye out for sand. I'd almost forgotten. It's been a long time.

Bugs Bunny

It is critical which foot you use to step.

Let's say that the baton holder is holding the baton in the right hand and he is stepping forward with his left foot. His intent is to rotate the right half of his body to strike you with the baton. He also has forward momentum.

Step HARD with your right foot inside his left foot, your right elbow braced with the left hand straight up and into the bh's nose, mouth, eye, throat or whatever is exposed. Do not try to strike the body because of the padding or bullet proof vest there.

Bend your knees deeply, pressing into the ground and FAST FAST FAST rotate your body to the left, extending your braced arms to his baton arm and make sure he keeps on going in the direction he was attacking you.

He will teeter. To make him fall, step HARD straight down onto the arch of his foot. Don't try kicking the knee -- you'll lose your balance.

And then get the heck outta there FAST. Best to keep on rotating to your left and roll around him to his rear. Then you can kick downward HARD onto the back of his calf.

Now he's down and he's not getting up. Then RUN away.

I agree that it is better to get inside the attacker's range. That way, even if he does hit you, there is no power in his strike.

Remember, when you are going in, to breathe and to force your eyes to stick open. Yell from your stomach.

Basically, even if you are confronted by multiple attackers, most of them carry their weight too high. Bend your knees DEEP, press your feet into the ground, press your knees apart, and present your side to your attackers. If you keep your center of gravity low, it is easy for them to lose their balance by merely bumping into you. Breathe. Breathe. Breathe.

Do not waste energy by bouncing or prancing. Stay still, breathe, until you are ready to counter attack.

Bugs Bunny

btw, if you are going to go to the trouble of (accidentally) driving a Basij to the ground, check to see if he can get up. You don't want him to get up because if he does then he is going to be madder than heck and he will come after you with a vengeance.

Yeah, if you can wrench the batons or weapons from an attacker who has (accidentally) fallen to the ground, do that and distribute as you see fit. A disabled attacker can still use his gun. You don't want that.

All very well, saying these things, but to practise them under pressure... um... well it takes years.

A simple rule of thumb is to move in small groups which are linked to larger groups. (Accidentally) surround your attacker, (accidentally) persuade him to go down, and ... er... to give up his weapons. Patience and teamwork... one by one... little by little...

TsuDhoNimh

His weight is on his right foot, so it's anchored ... step forward and kick his right leg hard, straight back, at or just below the knee. Instant tib-fib fracture or dislocated knee or both. With luck you can get the trifecta of tib-fib, knee and distal femur in one shot.

That's a season-ending injury, and if you have one guy down, that means at least one might stay with him until medics get there, and one has to cover for him on his shift and the next 6 months of shifts.

Yes, immediately run like hell. Or kick another knee.

It takes very little force to break a leg when the force is applied in this direction. ---> || it's so easy that even a girl can do it, and take out a hulking man. All those muscles don't help much

We weren't allowed to practice it because one slip and the instructor would have been screaming on the floor. But I know from personal experience that it works. It sounds sickening, but it was necessary.