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Here are some simple ways of defending yourself when attacked by Basij or Security forces.

Anti riot attacks

Once caught by security forces, the best way to break free is by swinging relentlessly in all directions. Keep in mind that security forces have to hold on to you, which means they only can use one hand to deflect the blows. Brass Knuckle is extremely effective when trying to break loose from the grip of security forces. Wooden brass knuckle is strong and simple to make. The image above is a sample of a basic wooden brass knuckle that can be made with a piece of wood, a cutter and a drill. It should not take more than 30 minutes to make a wooden brass knuckle. Wooden brass knuckle is extremely strong, light weight and versatile. Make sure that the top edges are sharp and round.

Motorcycle attacks

Iranian Basij motorcycle units use attack and retrieve tactics which is meant to create fear more than anything else. The same tactic was used by US police forces on horsebacks when confronting the civil right protestors. The advantage of utilizing motorcycles in urban environment is obvious: motorcycles can go places that cars can’t. However, motorcycles have disadvantages which can handicap the force that uses them.

The most effective way of disabling motorcycles is using tire spikes. Though made of carbon cratnor material, the Basij motorcycle tires cannot withstand multiple punctures. The easiest way to spike Basiji’s tires is by using a simple tire spike system called Iron Caltrop. This simple device can be made in a matter of minutes by wrapping two pieces of nail together in a 65 degree angle. By dropping a handful of Iron Caltrop on the ground, you can deflate the tires of Basijis’ motorcycles in a matter of minutes. If you ride, you know how difficult it is to steer a motorcycle with two flat tires.

Tear gas

A fabric socked in vinegar can very well protect you against tear gas. Cover your nose and mouth with the fabric and keep plenty of water around to wash your eyes if you come in direct contact with tear gas. Urban Legend: burning tires will reduce the effect of tear gas. Not true, it actually increases the effect and it smells bad too.

Batons

Riot police is trained to use batons. They understand that it’s easy to hit a stationary target and much easier to hit a target that is running away. Hitting somebody with baton is a matter of timing. The worst thing you can do is to run away from baton whirling security guards because it allows them to time the strike perfectly. The most effective way to counter a security guard with baton is to throw off his timing by going directly at him. That’s right. Run away and turn and go directly at him. When you go directly at the guard and close the distance, you completely screw up his timing. A boxer cannot hit a person that is standing 2 inches away from his face. That’s why boxer bounce around. A baton whirling guard is just like a boxer, he needs to time his strikes. By going directly at the guard and closing distance you mess-up his timing and might even be able to take him down.

Riot formation

Basij and police security guardsmen perform best when crowd disperses and becomes separated. The worst scenario for the riot police is when the crowd is together and inseparable. South Korean labor protestors in the 90s were the best organized units in history of rioting. Thousands of them held on to each other (locked arms) and no matter what, they did not let go. It made it impossible for the riot police to disperse them.

Just a few tips. Please translate and send it back to the youth in Iran. This can save their lives.
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Could you give advice on handling a man approaching with a club and shield.

Could you give advice on the man bringing up the club to swing without the shield.

Recipients will try to get back today after work.

Thank you for sharing your expertise.
 
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I'm sorry but I do not know the answers to those questions. I'm not the expert on these things whatsoever. I found this article today and thought I should at least share it with others. I posted the link to the actual article at the begining of the post. Here is the link again:

It might save their lives | Iranian.com

However if anyone knows the answers please go ahead share them with others...
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Message for Westerntornado,

Could you give advice on handling a man approaching with a club and shield.

Could you give advice on the man bringing up the club to swing without the shield.

Recipients will try to get back today after work.

Thank you for sharing your expertise.

How to use police tactics against a baton | Wonder How To
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Default "Chevron" Road block with trash can weighted with sandbags

Road Blocks "trash cans" weighted with "sand bags"
Park cars (after taking off plates and VIN#'s) at 45'degree angels in the center of street at four foot intervals on opposite sides of the street in opposite directions to form a Chevron pattern a, "Zipper" in the Streets and place trash cans weighted with sandbags between the cars on streets intersecting the Main Blvd's and at the point where Main Roads come into Cities where demonstrations are to take place and where you plan to respond to vehicles and troops with "Steve Irwins" or "Stinkies" at boundaries of protests. Do this at least 30 - 45 minutes before troops/police arrive.
The crowds can run trough to safety but the Motorcycle Police won't be able to maneuver quickly enough to get through without putting themselves at extreme risk.
Place sand bags in trunks of cars, take 60 gal trash cans in cars, fill sandbags
(pillow cases will do,line with garbage bags) arrive at location.
Cars 1-3-5 make U turn at 45" degrees to cars 2-4-6 following at single car length.
Cars 2-4-6 remain in original lane at 45 degree angle to center of lane facing center line.
Cars 1-3-5 face opposite sidewalk going the opposite direction, rear end to center line.
Cars are parked 4.5 feet apart

Remove from trunks, put sand bags in trash cans. place trash cans in between diagonals and on sidewalks so it will slow down Motorcyclists. Obstacle course for motorcycle Police but easy for pedestrians to get around. Plot your Chevron design out on paper before and based on the streets you are blocking off.
You can execute one in 30 mins or less.
Make it as long as you like but at least;
6 cars ( 3 per side)
12 trash (2 per car) the more the better - many uses
36 sand bags (3 per can) water or sand - many uses
A row of trash cans at boundary across street before Chevron.
Place sunscreen/oil on cookie sheets on top of upside down trash can tops while on top of trash cans that are weighted with sand bags and let it burn open flame for troops to see, after people have passed ignite trash can tops so troops will hesitate.
Also Teams can hide in the cars for the motor cyclist with ropes /opening doors and take them off their bikes when the Motor Police try to go past after people are clear.
Example A:
1st. Cyclist passes, Team one Open doors and closes distance so Cyclist 1 can't return.
2nd. Team two next car, opens doors as Cyclist approaches, cutting Cyclist off
3rd. Team one has closed distance and with Team twos help disarms Cyclist and takes custody of Cycle or disables cycle.
 
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Default Sun Screen SPF30 Fire from the Sky

Sunscreen 30 SPF is flammable
Sunscreen is flammable !!! test it on pavement! lite it; it burns hot and long. like napalm, SUNSCREEN your plain old sunscreen you put on your skin to protect it from the sun! Look for SPF of at least 30%. and alcohol of at least 50% on labels. Test products that are available, that work, then purchase in quanity.
Place sunscreen/oil on cookie sheets on top of upside down trash can tops while on top of trash cans that are weighted with sand bags and let it burn open flame for troops to see. At road block locations to make troops move in other directions.
Prepare the street with sun screen strips and patches then when troops come into place; drop / throw ignition material (cocktails) onto street. Sunscreen on lines of street etc... Sunscreen will ignite and the troops will be encircled by fire , engulfed by flames, everywhere along the street that they are on should have black cloth strips and patches with Sunscreen on them that will ignite.
It can have a terrifying psychological effect on the troops.
House hold napalm: One styrofoam cooler into appx. two ounces of gasoline.
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Lightbulb Excellent advice here's some more

How to Deal With Riot Control Agents (WikiHow)
How to Deal With Riot Control Agents - wikiHow
GUIDE TO PUBLIC ORDER SITUATIONS
Guide to Public Order Situations

The latter is geared to British Police 'Plod' but has some useful advice that might save lives.
In all cases preparation is key!
20th June +40
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Default baton and shield, baton man

(MOD please move unregistered remarks to another thread to save time of the reader)
(RichardCranium - thank you for links - do you have non-register requirement versions?)

Simple Baton and Shield:

Step to side of man where baton is not, by moving one foot forward.
Grab elbow side edge of shield with both hands and pull to you.
- Leverage makes him think he will lose shield.
- He cannot hit you on that side, it is across body/shield.

He will pull shield back, he is now off balance.
Shove with shoulder, he will fall like tree.

IF he does not fall, run back into your group immediately.

IF he DOES fall: Stomp on his ankle or kick his knee and run back to your group immediately.

Step-Grab-Shove-Stomp - Run!

A man who is hurt takes two men to care for him and remove from situation. A few broken ankles are far more humiliating than a honorable wound in the head. Do not honor these men with real injury.


Simple Baton Man:

Step in close
Grab baton wrist with BOTH hands
immediately bring your top hand down into neck or face HARD
Grab helmet edges with BOTH hands, use like handle

Throw him down
stomp on ankle or knee
run back in to group.
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I send these things not as violent, but after yesterday, more needs to be done. And these arabic speaking Basiji do not belong here.

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I do not know what you can access, but there are some excellent videos (if i do say so myself) on video.google and youtube by Bas Ruten

Kick ass!
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Message for Westerntornado,

Could you give advice on handling a man approaching with a club and shield.

Could you give advice on the man bringing up the club to swing without the shield.

Recipients will try to get back today after work.

Thank you for sharing your expertise.
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Ask the SCA (society for creative anarchism) heavy weapons people. Somebody in Anon must know those crazy loons.


send an email to them here Society for Creative Anachronism, Inc. (their offical page)

Might have better luck with individual kingdoms and blogs: I found two docs that might help newbies.

Here is a link to shield wall basics http://www.io.com/~caladin/SheildWallBasics.htm

SCA link to basic melee combat: An Essay on Melee Tactics

I will see what cold copypasta can bring here too.
 
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