BFG and CSI Judgment Is In

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I think you're getting pretty far ahead of yourself. Nobody knows if the case has more than the bare minimum of merrit needed to go forward and nobody knows if this scheme to get DM named as a defendant will work out. People should probably hold off on popping the corks on the champagne bottles.

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The original Sea Org contract was a "Contract of Employment".
There are copies through Google (sea org contract pdf).

There is also HCOPL 28 May 68 Volunteer Staff, "Volunteers and non-contracted staff may only work in AO's. They may not work on ships in the SO. This does not bar volunteers working in AO's becoming SO members. If they sign a contract, they can then come to SO."

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I have a feeling Davey's legal tactics are going to get weirder and weirder.

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SCIENTOLOGY IS GOING TO TRIAL FOR HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

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i.e. "OUR RELIGION DOESN'T BELIEVE IN MINIMUM WAGE", "YOU CRITICIZED SCIENTOLOGY, SO YOU HAVE CRIMES, THUS YOU AREN'T A CREDIBLY LAWYER/JUDGE/WITNESS/ETC", "OUR RELIGION DOESN'T BELIEVE IN EMPLOYMENT, WE'RE ALL VOLUNTEERS, HELL, I'M A VOLUNTEER"

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Miscavige will have to be deposed in Claire's case because RTC is a defendent.

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LarryBren, I sure hope you are on the list of Ex's willing to testify as to why DM and RTC should be defendants....seeing as you helped so much to make it legally seem like CoB didnt have direct control over this type of stuff with the whole corporate structure thing in the 80s.

WE NEED A FUCKING VOLTRON OF EX-SCILONS! Sure, the black lion was cool my itself, but no one played with the blue one untill it was time to make the giant kickass robot!

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DO IT FAGGOTS

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As per my very first posting on WWP/Enturbulation I told Miscavige that I was exposing him. Since then so much has happened that now I am but one tiny voice in a chorus of those speaking out and/or exposing the lies and abuses. And this includes all of Anonymous, without which little would have ended up being accomplished IMO.

Back then Barry Van Sickle and I gave Miscavige et al plenty of chances to admit their abuses, come clean and do something about it. They of course have not.

Barry Van Sickle has been my attorney for some three years. He was the only one I could find at the time with the courage to stand up to organized scientology besides Graham Berry. I greatly admire what he is doing here, no matter what the results may be.

I know this has only just begun, but it is so freaking righteous it must be supported for the sake of justice.

Whatever happens this is going to be one hell of a ride!

FWIW, while this leaves out 99.99% of the detail, this little recent posting touches on part of the reason why Miscavige should be pulled into this and how they try to lie to keep him out of it:

http://tinyurl.com/ldkvrd

I would not miss supporting this for the world.

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larry brennan is a pretty cool dude

edit: someone please add 'witness stand' as a tag, I want to complete the trifecta started with david miscavige and booster seat

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David Miscavige, word clear: "Super Typhoon Tip of 1979" and "hypercane". You're about to be hit by both in court, and they're building up to their peak intensity. This latest development isn't epic, but it certainly is cause to brace for epic.

Oh, and for those who are too lazy to google, here's some perspective on Super Typhoon Tip. If that motherfucker were coming at me, I'd be writing out a will.

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I heard a rumor Davey's been hanging out the on Failwinds a lot recently... stressful times... I also heard the Failwinds is in Cartagena, Colombia. In my decades in Scientology I never heard of it going there. Could little Davey be hiding from something?

With a little research I found that:

"In addition, the Colombian domestic extradition law authorizes extradition only for a limited scope of offenses. As a result, the United States is unable to obtain the extradition of persons, regardless of their nationality, for a number of serious offenses, including certain violent and financial crimes for which the minimum penalty under Colombian law may be less than four years imprisonment. The Departments of Justice and State continue in discussion with the Colombian government in an effort to overcome obstacles to and otherwise facilitate extradition."

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inb4 Nibbs was right about the drug smuggling ring!


Can you provide a link on how you know that the Failwinds is in Columbia?

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He'd better think again. Under the Extradition Treaty between the US and Colombia, false imprisonment and perjury are extraditable offences.

http://www.oas.org/juridico/mla/en/traites/en_traites-ext-usa-col.pdf

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baseless woganonymous post is baseless

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You are right. A Scn friend just told me FWs was in Colombia... Don't know if this is true or not though. Then did a quick search on extradition policies and obviously didn't dig deep enough. In any case, it is a quick hop to Venezuela where I believe he'd be safe.

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Well, I was saying this a little bit ago...can't find the thread though...

But I got first dibs of the DM prison sex tape...hehehe...

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Not that it's very important (especially if he could be extradited), but just because I brought it up I will try to either confirm or deny the rumor I heard.

In any case, if he's hopping from country to country on a boat don't you think it would be difficult for the US to go through with an extradition process in any one of those countries?

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Worked for LRH.

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Davey has bi-monthly commitments at EVENTS that LRH didn't have. What if he doesn't turn up at St Hill for the October big bash? The sky would fall in.

We know they've been trying to open up markets in S. America. The trip could be allied to that. Stay tuned for MOAR tedious press releases from their PR hacks.

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Are you trying to avoid saying that Scientology is the EMPLOYER, and scientology staff are EMPLOYEES?

Regardless, Federal laws trump state laws.

Federal preemption - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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U.S. Department of Labor - Employment Standards Administration (ESA) - Wage and Hour Division (WHD) - Compliance Assistance-Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA)

Compliance Assistance - Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA)

Overview

The FLSA establishes minimum wage, overtime pay, recordkeeping, and youth employment standards affecting employees in the private sector and in Federal, State, and local governments. Covered nonexempt workers are entitled to a minimum wage of not less than $7.25 per hour effective July 24, 2009. Overtime pay at a rate not less than one and one-half times the regular rate of pay is required after 40 hours of work in a workweek.

* FLSA Minimum Wage: The federal minimum wage is $7.25 per hour effective July 24, 2009. Many states also have minimum wage laws. In cases where an employee is subject to both state and federal minimum wage laws, the employee is entitled to the higher minimum wage.


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U.S. Department of Labor - Employment Standards Administration (ESA) - Wage and Hour Division (WHD) - Minimum Wage

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Thanks...I just upchucked my midnight snack.

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If you read the post you quoted, I was claiming that the federal law has a stipulation that allows states to make their own exemptions that allow the Texas guilde lines to be valid, that being said I am not going to look for it and I am going to STFU until I stumble across it again. The quoted statement was marked as not trying to be dox other than to show that some states have the exemption and to at least imply that to assume that religious workers are not entitled to minimum wage in every state.

I did however discover that in CA and FL they seem to be. And between these two states I feel that the critical mass would be disrupted and CoS would not be able to survive the impact. (if the shit was to hit the fan) Texas likely only has <100 sea org. TN has no exemptions other than the federal requirements so the influx of SO in Nashville would also be subject to the same stipulations as CA and FL.

If you care to look for it yourself in the actual law written I believe it is near the end and under "exceptions (exemptions)" <- Both words are used and if I remember correctly exemptions is in ( ) .

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DOX OR GTFO FAGGOT

Why are people patting themselves on the back for fictional shit?

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MKULTRA remote viewing?

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Can Mods be infracted for laziness or stupidity?

No offense happy feet, but please read the thread before responding in huge red fonts.

/ back on topic, scilons are squirming right now. Waiting for a shitstorm of press releases about how David Miscavige is not the Leader of Scientology.

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Learn to Google. I'll give you a hint: Freewinds Cartagena . . .

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Seconded.

Fungus Feet, you seem ill-equipped to mod this forum. Your constant insults are neither relevant nor entertaining. You appear to jump in fungus feet first with comments that detract from threads and make you look like an energetic idiot. I'm really tired of it.

I know I can just skip your comments, but you see, sometimes the mods say something useful or important to the functioning of the site, so reading mod comments is a hard habit to break.

If you wish to mod, perhaps you could shuffle on down the web to a site that's more in line with your talents and interests.

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Best news ever.

Here's the plan- once the arrest warrant is issued, whether for contempt of court or for direct crimes, we all chip in for a anonymous pirate vessle, desend to columbia for out final battle with miscavige and the cos.

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Chipping in for stuff never works out. And who's paypal account are you planning on using ?

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The Flag Ship of Anonymous Boston's Northern Fleet stands ready to set sail and join the Anonymous armada for the final battle (if only we can figure out how to get out of Lake Winnipesaukee):

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Is it too much to ask that mods read the threads they reply to?

Oh but it does, sometimes. Several succesful ops have been funded by PayPal collections and chipins. Just make sure Scientology doesn't donate five dollars and then complain to PayPal for "not receiving product" or whatever - that can delay your collection quite a bit.

PayPal is probably not the best payment provider to use for anything big either.

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You don't "chip in" on pirate ships.
You take them!
Yarrrr, etc.

So, meet up in the Dutch Antilles. Someone needs to bring trained dolphins and limpet mines.
Well find a suitable vessel and board her.
I'll act as ship's cook and #2 skipper if necessary.

We'll need a guitarist, a piper, and a concertina player. Also crew well versed in piratey stuff.
See you on St. Kitt, lads!

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That looks awesome....

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I know nothing about sailing...but I can bring 2 barrels of Rum and a trained monkey. So I think I know everything I need to about pirating.

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Can't wait to see the outcome of this..

Seeing as people are infracted for not reading the whole thread this is hilarious