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Death Hamster, you be the best!

That link only confirms what I suspected. They've done it in the past. They do it now. Betcha lots of people remember that $cilon fail move from 2007.

More and more the robot $cilon ways are becoming known to all. The cult is failing fast.

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---devil's advocate---

explain to me why, when we're swimming in a sea of win, as soon as somobody notices a dead fish at the bottom or that the guy next to them pissed in it, we evacuate the waters, drain the sea and fill it back up?

---/devil's advocate---

harpoons away

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Please excuse if this is considered a derail
But a little musical interlude
YouTube - Men At Work - Down Under (High Quality)

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I'm glad the madhair pointed this out. It's kind of ridiculous to bitch about scientologists spamming form emails considering WWP encourages that kind of thing all the time.

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Actually Amnesty International encourages that kind of thing (form letters) as well, but it makes it clear that it's an Amnesty initiative, and the purpose is usually to call attention to something - not to ask people to ignore stuff.

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Thanks for the comma delimited addys. More 'oons sent!

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Seconded.

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I just took a look at the email I just sent...I can't believe I just sent a mass email to the entire Senate of Australia. Kind of surreal.

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Amnesty International also has letter-writing campaigns to make sure terrorists locked up abroad get enough vitamin C in their diet.

(Obviously my stint in AI was quite brief)

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Oh noes! Not Vitamin C!


Idiot.

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A few things that may help us change the balance [don't know if OP wants to update with any of this]:

(1) Hushmail and Gmail do not show your IP address to the recipient, so if your girlfriend/boyfriend/housemates want to send emails using your computer, there won't be the suspicion that it's actually the same person responding multiple times.

(2) To make it 'slightly' more personal, I've broken the Senators email addresses down into Male Senators and Female Senators. As such it means that you can use the BCC function (this stops the recipient seeing all of the other addresses the letter's been sent to), allowing you to address it Dear Madam, Dear Sir (or similar). Remember that BCC is NOT the same as CC (where the recipient will see the addresses of ALL the other people that you sent it to).

(3) If you're unsure of what to write, I've reposted some excellent tips from Emma at the bottom of this post.

(4) For ease, I've also reformatted the address list, so that each address is separated by a comma, allowing you to simply copypaste them into the BCC box.

As you no doubt know, the 12 Aussies who've come forward have already started receiving "Black PR" about them in the media. Their heads are on the chopping block, so please, please please give them the /b/lackup they need and deserve.

Thanks.

mod note: edited list free of dupes

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Done.

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Poon'd, also warned them about dead-agent emails in case OSA is attempting to blemish the message with bigotry.

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WARNING

Boswell, Ferguson and Ludlam are in that list (men and women sorted; post #52) twice. [strike]Probably other dupes too.[/strike]

Please check the list and clean it of dupes!!!

ETA: I didn't find any more either, so I think it was just those 3.

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Done. I didn't find any duplicates other than those you mentioned.

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Er...sorry...that was me that compiled it. I didn't get much sleep last night unfortunately.

Will report post now, and ask a mod to alter it, so that it's good to go.

Thanks for the heads up.

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This is easy to do and has impact. Get off your ass and do this if you haven't.

Also, post back here if you have sent poons so we can get a sense of volume.

2 versions used. Pooned from my personal addy (wtf?) addressing my personal concerns about Scientology, and then reworked with new links and sent from my tla addy.



If you don't want to use your personal email address, etc., you can still send emails using sites like:

Send Anonymous Email

You will need a "sender's" email address to use this....so go here:

10 Minute Mail
(this address and inbox expires pretty quickly, so don't expect to get a response).


Working on a third version now that will be addressed to Senate staffers who are reading and categorizing the emails...usually young, fresh out of college, working long hours (but paid a decent wage and provided health care, ftw).

I will brighten their day with a joke and some selected on-topic Youtube links...


EDIT: There is a limit to the number of email addresses you can fit into the address field using the Anonymous Email link above. You will need to split the list into 4 groups (send 4 emails).

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Pooned, and the wifie too.

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pooned the entire list

oh and we owe all of Australia oral sex.

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Pooned everyone.

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Unleashed: Past Polls
Question 446

Should there be a Senate inquiry into the Church of Scientology?
Yes 83%
No 17%
1018 votes counted

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3 responses
1 - says it is an auto responce
1 - could be auto
1 - is not, pulled my name out of the email

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I wrote something. It wasn't a gem by any stretch of the imagination, but hopefully it's better than nothing. Fingers crossed...

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I'm getting auto responses but got one secretary who is forwarding the email. I hope they don't mind my spelling errors.

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Use this to mass-mail, copy it to the To box, I replaced the newlines with commas using perl

senator.bob.brown@aph.gov.au, senator.ludlam@aph.gov.au, senator.milne@aph.gov.au, senator.siewert@aph.gov.au, senator.bishop@aph.gov.au, senator.carol.brown@aph.gov.au, senator.carr@aph.gov.au, senator.conroy@aph.gov.au, senator.faulkner@aph.gov.au, senator.hogg@aph.gov.au, senator.hurley@aph.gov.au, senator.hutchins@aph.gov.au, senator.lundy@aph.gov.au, senator.mcewen@aph.gov.au, senator.mclucas@aph.gov.au, senator.marshall@aph.gov.au, senator.obrien@aph.gov.au, senator.polley@aph.gov.au, senator.sherry@aph.gov.au, senator.stephens@aph.gov.au, senator.sterle@aph.gov.au, senator.wortley@aph.gov.au, senator.scullion@aph.gov.au, senator.fielding@aph.gov.au, senator.adams@aph.gov.au, senator.barnett@aph.gov.au, senator.brandis@aph.gov.au, senator.colbeck@aph.gov.au, senator.coonan@aph.gov.au, senator.eggleston@aph.gov.au, senator.ferguson@aph.gov.au, senator.fierravanti-wells@aph.gov.au, senator.humphries@aph.gov.au, senator.mason@aph.gov.au, senator.boswell@aph.gov.au, senator.joyce@aph.gov.au, senator.abetz@aph.gov.au, senator.arbib@aph.gov.au, senator.back@aph.gov.au, senator.bilyk@aph.gov.au, senator.birmingham@aph.gov.au, senator.boswell@aph.gov.au, senator.sue.boyce@aph.gov.au, senator.bushby@aph.gov.au, senator.cameron@aph.gov.au, senator.cash@aph.gov.au, senator.collins@aph.gov.au, senator.cormann@aph.gov.au, senator.crossin@aph.gov.au, senator.evans@aph.gov.au, senator.farrell@aph.gov.au, senator.feeney@aph.gov.au, senator.ferguson@aph.gov.au, senator.fifield@aph.gov.au, senator.fisher@aph.gov.au, senator.forshaw@aph.gov.au, senator.furner@aph.gov.au, senator.hanson-young@aph.gov.au, senator.heffernan@aph.gov.au, senator.johnston@aph.gov.au, senator.kroger@aph.gov.au, senator.ludwig@aph.gov.au, senator.ludlam@aph.gov.au, senator.ian.macdonald@aph.gov.au, senator.mcgauran@aph.gov.au, senator.minchin@aph.gov.au, senator.moore@aph.gov.au, senator.nash@aph.gov.au, senator.parry@aph.gov.au, senator.payne@aph.gov.au, senator.pratt@aph.gov.au, senator.ronaldson@aph.gov.au, senator.troeth@aph.gov.au, senator.trood@aph.gov.au, senator.williams@aph.gov.au, senator.wong@aph.gov.au

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crossposted /xenu/
/xenu/ - Project Chanology

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From what I've been told they have pre-written letters ready for this kind of emergency. They spam them out making them appear to come form various names, some real scientologists, some just made up. But they all are pro scientology and they do this on a massive scale to try to bury any negative responses from the real world in pro scilon viewpoint. Deathhamster is awesome for finding this article, as we can use it in our harpoons now.

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Starting to get responses now, so definitely no automatics for me. Some will forward to senators, others saying they can only respond to mail from their own constituents so please supply an address in their district.

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Incorrect. Gmail does show ip's when you look at "show original." Also, you're writing to the government, chances are they would have a program set up that shows originating ip's as a precaution. My only concern is, are one of those Senators a scilon? *shrug*

Having said that, I don't think you should worry about private info. Like they're gonna care. Unless they're getting highly repetitive form letters (like sci's will send) they'll address each and every letter no matter where it's from and I don't think you have to worry about confidentiality - they're paid to represent and protect people.

Here's some good news, I poon'd the list Tiny put in the op when she put it up, so some time has passed. I have had a few auto responses, BUT I have also had a handful of more personal responses such as: "...your letter is very important...sorry to hear about....make no mistake I will take your suggestions and research this matter....etc etc"

and this one response:

"Dear _______, I wish to acknowledge receipt of your email. I am overwhelmed and touched by the concern coming from outside Australia in regards to Senator Xenophon's Parliament address...."

She did read my entire 2-page letter because she went on to mention personal details that I included. I don't feel spooked at all either considering what I said in the damn thing.

Guise they're gonna read these letters. We have a chance to really make an impact here. If you haven't poon'd I encourage you to do it right now. Make it from the heart and use spell-check. Not hard.

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Harpooned including with information on the Formerly in assault case and other things that they should know about.

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^^ Did you supply documents from that case and the name and contact information to her? If not that was a useless - unless you can find it and send it to them.

Debate has been postponed one more day: More time for harpoons.

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Same for me so far.

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So the senator for ACT only wants to hear from his constiuents - which is fair enough, but fortunatly doesn't seem to be the rule - Get your Canberra based friends and family to write him!

Actually, on re-reading - it just says there will be no fuller response to non-ACT folk. More than fair enough. Hopefully the actual emails are being read and considered.

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Here's some Australia-tagged articles:

• 'Church' that yearns for respectability June 23, 2007, Dominic Kennedy, The Times
• 'I just butchered my family' July 9, 2007, David Braithwaite, Sydney Morning Herald
• Accused 'butchered' Scientologist family, court told July 9, 2007, AAP, The Australian
• Bookshops won't stock Tom's tale January 13, 2008, Angela Cuming, Sydney Morning Herald
• Hubbard's Scientology 'built on nonsense' July 2, 2007, Jill Singer, Herald Sun
• MPs call for tax probe into cult May 20, 2007, James Murray, Daily Express
• Minister free to call Scientologists bastards: Rann July 11, 2008, John Wiseman, The Australian
• No sex life tapes on Nicole, say Scientologists January 8, 2008, Janet Fyfe-Yeomans, news.com.au
• Oz minister brands Scientologists bastards July 15, 2008, ANI, Thaindian News
• Parent anger at religious 'advice' October 29, 2007, Xanthe Kleinig, The Advertiser
• Religion not a factor in mental health policy: Govt July 12, 2007, ABC News (Australia)
• Religion's rise in the stars July 9, 2007, Carla Danaher, Herald Sun
• Scientologist 'assisted' from CFA recovery area December 19, 2006, Daniel Ziffer, The Age
• Scientologists 'flat earthers' July 10, 2007, Dylan Welch, Sydney Morning Herald
• Scientologists given accused's psychiatric file September 28, 2007, Dan Box, The Australian
• Scientologists want to raise the roof May 6, 2007, Frank Walker, Brisbane Times
• Scientology beliefs 'stopped accused killer getting treatment' July 9, 2007, News.com.au
• Scientology holds sway in banning Cruise book January 13, 2008, Angela Cuming, The Age
• Scientology lessons in schools August 16, 2005, Liam Houlihan, Herald Sun
• Scientology madness continues January 22, 2008, Roger Coombs, Daily Telegraph
• Scientology protests begin in Australia February 10, 2008, Andrew Ramadge, Herald Sun
• Scientology the cult of disbelief July 11, 2007, Michelle Cazzulino, Daily Telegraph
• Secret Scientology letter war exposed July 12, 2007, Joe Hildebrand, Daily Telegraph, News.com.au
• Sect loses battle to become a charity November 10, 1999, James Meek, The Guardian
• Tax ruling boosts churches, charities November 16, 2007, Barney Zwartz, The Age
• Unwitting high-schoolers lured to forum run by Scientologists March 28, 2007, Anna Patty, Sydney Morning Herald
• Woman accused of murder denied bail October 16, 2007, Sydney Morning Herald
• Woman stabbed Scientologist parents July 9, 2007, IOL
• e-book version of Cruise biography could lead to legal action in Australia January 16, 2008, Andrew Hendry, PC World

I'm behind a year on my news backlog. I'll get caught up as soon as the controversy quiets down, hahahaha!

Moar: Scientology library: Australia (I love that bar graph of news activity!)

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I'm certain that you're wrong, see link:
User IP addresses - Gmail Help

As far as the Scilons getting it, I don't see that there's any reason to be concerned. That wasn't the point that I was making...it was more of a read between the lines statement...

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How to find the IP address of the email sender in Gmail, Yahoo mail, Hotmail, AOL, Outlook Express, etc : Arul John

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And I agree.

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Truth.

Reposting quote from Emma on ESMB for usefulness, (I found it useful anyway.)

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I didn't know that to be fair.

Having said that, as stated in the article you've linked to, if the person's accessed Gmail through their browser, then there's no way you can obtain it. "However, if someone sends you a mail from his/her Gmail account using a client like Thunderbird, Outlook or Apple Mail, you can find the originating IP address."