Public Benefit Test - hearing schedule published

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Bump!

Hope somebody is on the ball with this!

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Obviously not you.

9:45am–10:30am Roundtable
Ms Janette Vonthethoff
Ms Carmel Underwood
Mr Paul Schofield
Mr Kevin Mackey
Mr James Anderson

The stream is still suspended and it's 10:22. Only Paul had a couple minutes before the suspension.

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We back!

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Did they perhaps say "en camera"? It's Latin, or French, or Aramaic, or something.

ETA: Like I said, "in camera". Pheer my litrasee.

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I agree.

The term is In camera, which means the committee meets in private. And we're back.

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Today's hearing brought to you by Toshiba.

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I'm sure the ESMB Crowd will tell us what they said.

OTOH, I'm now worried CoS will attempt something dodgy tonsme sure their submission is In Camera as well.

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Obviously, DOH! (crap connection, no-rip, why do ya think I asked?)



Woman speaking now is right on thus far (5:37pm PST) dealing with 'practices and observances', she is hitting many nails oth "Church of Scilon is a prime example of....... it is fraud and a crime......" fucking excellent listen thus far!

ESMB'rs rockin' the frikken House! *big Happy dance* *glowing with pride fer them all!*

later edit> but I wish ta fuck they'd stay on target! The good senator is doin' his best, but this isn't scions on trial, but to use them an an example, he just stated it, good.

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for info
In camera - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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He did and if I'm not mistaken he launched into it seemingly right out of the blue but obviously with a need to make his upcoming points.

Also remember that scientology in the UK helped set another benchmark in 1970 when they lost an appeal for a failed application for a registering a place of worship (under the 1855 act which would have given them one more step closer to so called "religious recognition"). This is often referenced as the "Segerdal" case/test and helped define what constituted "worship" (and that scientology didn't do any).

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she's pulling no punches but my ears hurt listening to her

also she's a trap

prove me wrong

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I'm soooo proud of Carmel!

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Yes, Janet certainly is.

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public benefit commensurate with income of the group is a strong point

hadn't heart that before.

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Given that so many legal precedents revolve around the ‘exceptions’ it should not be surprising that ‘exceptions’ are relevant here.

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10:45 so I guess they'll skip morning tea?

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Jannet is ripping into Scientology! Glad they haven't stopped her yet.

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She is awesome!
Pushed it to the limit and still making her point!

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Really glad they didn't stop her, surprised by that really. Good job.

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But you can't spot a real trap, that's why it's a trap. You can't have an Obvious Trap, because that defeats the element of surprise which is intrinsic to *being* a trap.

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Not strong enough arguments here...

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will they please say these Front Groups claim legally they are NOT associated with Scientology. Oh, and that little detail that they've all been slammed for false claims?

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Not clearly enough made that the the tax exemptions the CoS are getting do not assist the programs, only heavily reg'd members do that.

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I disagree.

Pointing out that CoS is using the Nepal Narconon in their PR, yet not funding it with a dime, and.....demanding a tithe, whilst bullying the broke operator to keep on... That's pretty damaging in my book

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James is bringing up the 'exchange' policy


Oh yes and Xenophon backing him up!

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Front groups NOT scientology. All front groups have been peer reviewed and their claims exposed as false.

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Wog Justice!

Fair Game!

Go Xenophon!


Oh fuck, Cyrus must be STEWING sitting up the back listening to this!


Oh this is stunning, go Jannet!

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Watch scientology stumble as it will now be forced to ignore or defend. And I don't get the feeling that the senators will let them ignore what is being tabled here. We shall see.

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All this talk of wogs will be interesting if this makes the UK newspapers.

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Decent questions being asked I have to say.

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What! No tea break?

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Excellent!

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Good job and thanks all.

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For those of us blocked from streaming video at work, could someone please mention when there's a change of speaker & whether it's "Us" or "Them"????

BigBeard

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So much for the parameters to keep it generic and on topic!

This is fantastic!

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Uploading the roundtable discussion now, it certainly ended on a high note!

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Next up (now) is:

Cult Information and Family Support (submission 14)
Ms Ros Hodgkins, President


Also here is a list of australian senator meals: They would enjoy at least seven meals a day, when they can get them – breakfast, second breakfast, elevenses, luncheon, afternoon tea, dinner and (later in the evening) supper.

Or maybe it's hobbits I forgot.

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So far, all "us".

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IMHO

Nick X did well in keeping things relevant. Smart guy.
BTW-
I seriously thought Michelle Sterling was going to speak. Was I wrong or did I miss her?