Scientology insider details 'nightmare' childhood

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Tonja Burden also gave her account of abused children:

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Nice edit of Tom Cruise / Wally Hanks videos here by Anonamace, makes your blood boil this simple following of Hubbard's brutally abusive policies in his "church".

Hopefully the New York Times or another mainstream news source will consider a major expose on the long sad abusive treatment of children in Scientology.

Abusive treatment of children is condoned and promoted by L. Ron Hubbard's own policies, childeren are accountable like adults (adult thetans in small bodies).

The children's RPF, the children's security check, child labor abuse, reports of sexual abuse, very little family time, unacceptable living conditions, inadequate schooling and more are rampant in Scientology.

Sadly, Scientology staff parents with absurd work schedules go along with many of Hubbard's crazy policies including the mistreatment of their own children for the "greatest good on the most dynamics" and fair-game bullshit which justifies criminal behavior in order to protect the far more important interests of Scientology.

Good luck, Keryn, thx for speaking out.

Google: Scientology / Child Abuse

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Hana's story was one of the first one's that really terrified me.
To have such control over defenseless children and to be so heartless makes me rage. Words can not describe how I feel.

I have not heard of this other story in this article. It just makes me want to do more and more and more and more and more

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I have sent the link to this thread to Laurie Goodstein, along with a couple of other references about children and Scientology.

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Yes, and in fact Hubbard had no idea this was going on on the ship he commanded and in the organization he created. It was all off policy, Hubbard had never anything to do with it, the policies had never anything to do with it. In fact, Hubbard didn't know anything about all the abusive policies and the people whose lives got ruined, severely damaged or who died because of this system. Not to mention the massive fraud. Well, fuck you, Scientology. \rant

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Cyrus Brooks must be saying L Ron Hubbard was flawed and ignorant for not knowing with all his "Knowingness" what was going on on his own ship

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Well, hopefully Mrs. Goodstein will check these.

Pictures of teenagers on the RPF:
Caught on Kodak: Scientology also exploiting children and elderly

Scientology's rationalization of child labor, as published by themselves:
Allowing Children to Work, How can Scientology help me...

The policies which institutionalIzed child labor in 1968: http://forums.whyweprotest.net/123-leaks-legal/flag-orders-children-sea-org-58115/

Also: Vivien Krogmann-Lutz won a lawsuit against her German parents who forced her to work as a child slave in the UK, but I haven't found the actual dox on that.

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all her links are on the "list" on the Wiki I think?

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thread is becoming tl;dr...

That said, what I like about this article is that Keryn is talking about the LRH days. Marty Rathbun and the rest of the independents don't like to think about their precious Elwrong being such a first-class asshat, but there ya go. Not that we didn't have any previous evidence that Hubtoad was, well, a toad, but this is just another to add to the heaps we do have.

Keryn, if you're reading this, you're a very brave woman for coming forward and sharing what you know. I'd like to shake your hand. Thank you!

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RightOn, it's so-so. There is copypasta from news articles, but the actual ones have been removed from the archives. There's a xenutv video (although I believe the link is incorrect).

Perhaps some talented Germanon could actually dig up the actual verdict - if these are published publically that is.

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ratz,
that link is incorrect? Will have to mention it on the the list thread.
thanks for the heads up

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Scientology works and it appalls people.

Cool story, bro.

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Should the pix of child laborers be forwarded to Sen. Xenophon? I imagine they would help him make a powerful PowerPoint, if he needed to do so.

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I've said this before, the abuses these children suffered and controlled environment is very similar to the Amerian Indian Government Boarding Schools. The scars from these type of abuses can last a life time and sadly impacts future generations known as intergenerational trauma.

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This is a slight tangent, but has to do with chaining people. DM took a page from LRH's playbook (as usual) and still engages in chaining/shackling people, according to Little Bear Victor on OCMB.

The thread is an apology thread from John Peeler/BTS2FREE to the family of Rick Cruzen. John apologized to Rick's family for being involved in monitoring Rick so he didn't blow during a visit to his parents.

Operation Clambake Message Board :: View topic - Appology to the Family of Rick Cruzen

Later in the thread LBV states the following:

Rick is apparently still at Gold, sadly. His name was recently on the voter roll from Gold.

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hahaha... 20 years, how about 9!

They tried to get me in at 13 (when I signed for the billion), but I didn't join till 17. But my sisters joined at 13 and 15.

That was between 1997 and 2001. And there were plenty more being signed away by their scilon parents. I would say (at least) 4 out of 5 people being recruited into the Sea Org (when I was in), were under 18. Quite a few were as young as 13.

What a joke.

Obvious coward cult is obvious.

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Will. Do you know if any of those parents were coerced in any way, such as being threatened with declare or couldn't be on "the bridge", or any type of coercion or extortion. Do you know if any of those kids were taken, before the parents permission or even knowledge, and parents not allowed to see them or even be told where they were, and then made to sign agreements or turning over guardianship. Anything like that?

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A children's RPF? First I heard of it; that is beyond sick. Well, Cadet Org has been disbanded, but these dox do prove what a sick fkr hubtard was and that he initiated this abuse.

Seems these days kids are at least seriously neglected. Parents are working 2 or 3 jobs to dig themselves out of debt, or if 1 job, spent all the rest of their time in sci buildings, leaving kids to no real education (like Apple), and college is "bad" plus takes away sci money. And that's public! Staff, just gets worse.

Then seniors on staff are kicked to the curb, or anyone who gets serious ill.

Tommy Davis' one truthful statement: "We don't discriminate due to age" No, you abuse one and all equally.

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Sad but True children are in the RPF.

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This is tip of the iceberg on stories old timers have about the days on the ship with Hubbard. I am so relieved that Keryn spoke up and do hope many others will follow suit.

Mary McConnell

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Why? He'd just be in his 40s.

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If this was you or anyone, you're in my heart.

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So is there dox on what age the Sea Org defines the dividing line between children and adults? 13, 14, wot? As long as they get some kind of guardianship papers signed by parents? Is there dox on how young SO is reaping?

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You know what makes this authentic? There was no such thing as "white out" in that year. Copies were made by using carbon papers in between. And if electric typewriters existed by then, they weren't in wide use. So when you see a "type over" in this dox, that's why.

Thanks new guy. Maybe for some newer Anons I should explain that FO's (Flag Orders) are the ultimate evidence of the dark side/underbelly of what sci is really all about and the mechanisms of how it's done. Issued only to sea org staff.

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Excellent! I really have a hard time reading this I hope she does too. HOW could any human being believe all these EX's are lying is beyond me!
Co$ needs to be destroyed, dismantled, cease to exist for their crimes against children & humanity! All on top need to spend their rest of their lives in chains & in jail.

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Also notified Huffington Post. I hope someone can use what's in this thread. I agree, it's very disturbing.

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Thanks a lot please WARN people if its a actually Cos website!

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I knew of a parent who's child was under age 18, I think 16 or 17. The child was being lured by another teenager who was in the SO, and by lured I mean boyfriend/girlfriend thing, but don't know intimate details. This was around 2006 or 2007.

The child told parent she wanted to join. Parent said no, not until your 18, and really didn't want child in there at all. One day, child was missing. Parent went to Flag, called around, refused information. After a week or so, was finally told her child was Was going into Sea Org and that if parent didn't agree, she would be declared. Parent told child was now in another state getting prepared for her intro program. Weeks later Parent signed over and was allowed a phone call.

Her child eventually wound up back at Flag for intro program, menial jobs, and a year or so later, she left or was kicked out as "ethics" bait, with a large freeloader debt. Parent was on upper OT levels and wouldn't have been able to continue.
Also, said Parent was absolutely freaking out of her mind during this whole time.
Said Parent was also a wealthy parishioner with some family still in.

Said Parent never once called the police for the kidnapping of her child.

This is the true face of scientology. This is a brainwashing cult.

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Ah yes, thanks for the drive down memory lane. Let's make your 9 an 8 (2010 minus 2002).

1. When I was in the Sea Org in the mid-1990s, there was a girl there who was 15 years old (for CMO) and a young boy (also 15 years old). [PAC Base EPF]
   
2. There was a VERY young boy (looked 12 yrs old) who worked at ASHO, who the others say was a "returning Sea org member".
   
3. In 2002 the Sea Org was courting another 15 year old girl to get her recruited for the Sea Org. [CMO]
   
4. In the early 2000s, the Director of Training at ASHO was a young 15 yr old girl.
   
5. In 2002 I served many "minors" who were in the Sea Org. Many wanted to buy cigarettes, but upon carding them they didn't qualify. One got his uncle to buy the cigs for him.
   
6. I believe Christie King Colbran was a minor. (Recently out of the Sea Org. Do the math on her age.)

Not in 20 years? My ass!!!!!!!!!!

FUCKING SIX YEARS OLD

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Oh and word clear "uncountable nouns" you scifag morans.

The plural of "advice" is "advice."

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This is the FIRST you heard? Didn't Jenna Miscavige Hill or one of the other well-known recently-out scientologists do the children's RPF?

Here's an article:
Robert Vaughn Young: "Hubbard's Gulags: RPF's RPF"

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Aaron Saxton was 15 when he joined the Sea Org (I don't know what year that was), and signed a contract when he was 6.

Aaron’s story Footbullet.net

http://forums.whyweprotest.net/24-f...al-experiences/aaron-saxton-exit-story-62347/

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You are not entirely correct.

From the Oxford English Dictionary:

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I stand corrected.

I must remember that these policy dispatches are pompously bureaucratic.

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Yep, first I heard. And this is THE story about how scientology gets by with what they do for all these decades. My time in SO was before this; my husband and I were like many who'd been decades out. Some years ago stats were so crashed that anyone on mailing lists was tracked (stalked) down.

When it happened to us, I started researching over a year ago. I am Still finding crap out, much of which happened right under my nose, and I was SO. But neither of us were ever hard core or completely nuts, so we'd gone off it. Still knew people business wise that were around it. They were all nuts.

I used to compare sci to 1984, but really, with it's complexity and left hand doesn't know right levels, I think Enron might be a better example. I don't know how to explain it better.