Re: Sharron Angle - Threatening Armed Revolt? The way to use this is to point out that she did and still does support Crimanon. Hammer that home. Hammer home the fact that they use dangerous medical practices in the "treatment". Hammer home that they use it to recruit dangerous criminals. Dig up every shitty thing that we can from unreformed shitbags that went and victimized someone else after that were "reformed". That is how you win this one.
Re: Sharron Angle - Threatening Armed Revolt? So Sharron Angle is a person who: a) does not think for herself since she accepted Narconon based on their own sales pitch b) arrogantly believes she is right even when she is shown to be wrong since she carried on supporting Narconon even after evidence showed it to be bogus and, more importantly, not value for money c) believes that everyone else is a problem that should be removed by force if necessary I don't know American politics so I have no idea what attracts voters to a person but none of the above work for me. So apart from being a rabid supporter of scientology what are her real policies, what does she really stand for? Does she really have a clue? ....
Re: Sharron Angle - Threatening Armed Revolt? I don't know if she's a "rabid" supporter of Scientology. And yes, you don't know American politics. Arrogance isn't necessarily consigned to her party (take a look at her opposition - holy fuck - I wish Nevada was running a better person). Point (c) see my previous comments.
Re: Sharron Angle - Threatening Armed Revolt? OK so I may be exaggerating regarding rabid, although as we all know with scientology you are either in it or you are out of it, no half measures. As to arrogance, totally agree that this trait is exhibited by other politicians to varying degrees. It is never one that endears me to them regardless of the colour of their politics; I believe the existing system in the UK gives too much power to politicians and the people should have more power, for better or worse. (We don't have 2nd amendment remedies, indeed we have the toughest gun control regime in Europe). I agree that Governments should be afraid of their people, I don't think for one minute though that Angle genuinely holds to this view; rather she holds to the view that the people need to rise up and support her and I think that were she in power she would get all National Guard and military on any uprising just as I suspect most other politicians would.
Re: Sharron Angle - Threatening Armed Revolt? This is bollox. Certainly it is what the cult strives for, and achieves much of the time, but we have many examples of those who are scientology-friendly, but do not call themselves scientologists, and there are many public who never become staff. etc. etc. etc. At the extreme end there are numerous cult apologists who essentially want nothing to do with scientology.
Re: Sharron Angle - Threatening Armed Revolt? Here is where I would put Sharron Angle. "Useful Idiot". Not as a Soviet sympathizer but as a "useful idiot" for people that are trying to drive an agenda. Which is why I think she fell for the whole Scientology shtick. It is people like her that America doesn't need in politics. Also Harry Reid sucks cocks. Thanks for the choice between an asshole and a moron. What is wrong with Nevada?
Re: Sharron Angle - Threatening Armed Revolt? Agreed, from the cult's point of view you are either in it or you are out of it, it is what they strive for. Angle is on the slippery slope as it were. As to public, staff, sea org. Although these can be seen as measures of how far "in" you are the reality is that public scilons will always tow the party line just as much as staff or Sea Org or they are SP and must "leave". I agree cult apologists can be non-partisan but then they support an ideology of "religious" freedom not the actual ideals of any of the cults. Angle has accepted scientology ideology in the form of Narconon and Criminon and she defended it even when presented with evidence of how bad it really was. Further more she stated publicly that while she did not necessarily agree with everything the church of scientology says she was glad to have them on board even after the evidence was presented regarding human rights abuses etc. (Well I don't agree with human rights abuses but hey they aren't all bad...) You either reject it or you go with it and at the moment Angle is going with the cult.
Re: Sharron Angle - Threatening Armed Revolt? I can fully appreciate this. It's sad when politics throws up the choice between a useful idiot and an asshole.
Re: Sharron Angle - Threatening Armed Revolt? You must have missed the LD Sledge incident, then. Calling for OTs to hoard arms and whatnot against the tyranny of Obama.
Re: Sharron Angle - Threatening Armed Revolt? I vote that that second sentence be drawn and quartered. Anyway, I think there's (sadly, at least for Chanology purposes) a good chance that the Scientology "angle" will diminish now. There are lots of issues on the table, and many of them are more urgent than swatting a failing cult. If it does remain a significant factor in the race, it will probably be due to keeping the focus on Angle's fitness for office and less on the truth about Scientology. I'm going to guess that the average Nevada voter is not overly interested in the details of the cult, but is interested in getting inside Angle's head, at least enough to form a solid opinion about her suitability. For them, the "saunas and massages for criminals, LOL" might be as deep as they want to go into Hubbard loonyland. All JMO of course.
Re: Sharron Angle - Threatening Armed Revolt? Must be nice to be a politician who can infer if the opponent wins in a free elections your supporters will take up arms to overturn that election. Some view of democracy in action. If you, me, or cameranon said this to the news media, there'd be a SWAT team, HSA, and Xenu knows who else standing in our door shortly after. BigBeard
Re: Sharron Angle - Threatening Armed Revolt? If it looks, quacks and walks like a duck, it's a safe bet that it's probably a duck. She's certainly quacking like one right now.
Re: Sharron Angle - Threatening Armed Revolt? Exactly, when a free election where people can decide if an elected politician should stay or go doesn't go in one candidates favor I highly doubt the 2nd amendment was meant as a legal remedy for the losing candidate to the situation. If it was, Florida would have been a battlezone after the 2000 elections.
Re: Sharron Angle - Threatening Armed Revolt? Has anyone reported her threat to the police? Usually someone has to report a crime before the police investigate.
Re: Sharron Angle - Threatening Armed Revolt? Well she got 1 one of of the three reasons for the second amendment right. One is the reason she mentioned, protection against tyranny. Second is protection of yourself and your family and home against the criminal elements of society. Third one that most people don't think about is defending our nation from a hardcore invasion. I'm talking a "China just dumped 20 million heavily armed troops on the west coast" type situation. The point of the 2nd there is to turn every American town and city into a Stalingrad for any invaders who have enough numbers to bog down the regular military (which at the time of the constitution didn't exist by the way, the people were the militia). But that aside, Angle just wants to sound tough. We aren't near needing to invoke the 2nd as a people yet. There is still a lot of room for the system we have had for nearly 234 years to correct the bad congress we have now. However putting in a cult st00ge like Sharon Angle isn't part of that remedy, sadly for her.
Re: Sharron Angle - Threatening Armed Revolt? Not that google needs any help picking up on her crazy, but her first name has two Rs. SHARRON ANGLE is a nutjobwacko
Re: Sharron Angle - Threatening Armed Revolt? It's entirely possible. I don't live, breathe, and eat protesting Scientology. As "LD" is too small to search for on WWP, and "sledge" brings up a whole mess of other crap, link please? Google search doesn't seem to help any, either, there's just too much crap to wade through.
Re: Sharron Angle - Threatening Armed Revolt? Any Nevada residents feel like filing a complaint about Angle's statements with the Nevada Secretary of State (responsible for enforcing election laws) regarding Angle's comments? At the least, this could be taken as attempted voter intimidation: Eg., voting Harry Reid in to office could result in an armed response, so don't. It could also be construed as a direct threat to interfere with the results of a free and open election by armed force if the results don't go her way. And it could also be taken as a direct threat against Harry Reid by her partisans if he is elected. Somehow I just don't see any of that fitting in with the laws of Nevada on how an election is supposed to be run. Contact infor for the Nevada Secretary of State Elections Division is: Elections Division 101 North Carson Street, Suite 3 Carson City, NV 89701-3714 Phone: 775-684-5705 Fax: 775-684-5718 Email: nvelect@s0s.nv.gov BigBeard
Re: Sharron Angle - Threatening Armed Revolt? Tons of teabaggers, supporters of the Tea Party Movement, and various Republicans have made sort of tongue-in-cheek veiled threats against their opposition. Hinting that someone "should" really take them out of office by force. And of course you're going to get the extremists who listen to them to take it seriously, which could be what they wanted in the first place. The Republican Party has really gone off the deep-end in recent years. And you can say all you want that "both sides are equally bad", and "both sides have folks with extremist viewpoints", but the right's overwhelming support of a violent/arrogant mindset known as the "Tea Party Movement" will most likely be their downfall. It's understandable that most people with a Conservative/Republican viewpoint are not like this. However, the politicians and talk-show persons supposedly on their side seem to have taken an obligation to support the extremists at a moment that they are not currently in power. And the sad thing is that some of the things they're opposing are the same things that these same politicians used to defend before the "other side" decided to agree with them. So what, they disagree with the way things are being run. That's fine. But their approach to it has been a pretty scary one, even for their own stereotypes. They can't just stop at all the outrageous exaggerations and propaganda? They also have to resort to threats of violence and takeover? They argue that democracy has failed (assuming they are in the majority), yet when they are out-voted their solution is a violent uprising? See, I don't care what the Tea Party claims to be about, their actions outweigh their supposed beliefs. You can be against government spending all you want, but at least understand why there's an opposition and that not everyone can be a rich, privileged white person living off of medicare (irony, much?), and that your idea of a perfect government only helps to spread the Republican agenda of further gaping the hole between the lower and the upper classes. Just look at how well that worked out for France before they had their revolution. tl;dr - teabaggers are dangerous extremists and the republican party is applauding them.
Re: Sharron Angle - Threatening Armed Revolt? You are incorrect. The reasons for the second amendment are: 1) To protect the nation against invasion by foreign hostile governments by having an armed citizenry. 2) To ensure a standing army doesn't abuse the citizenry. 3) To overthrow a tyrannical government by force of arms. I think you are also wrong on the possibility of armed revolt happening. You have a government who's spending the country into the ground, exercising powers it's not supposed to have. Combine this with the upcoming economic meltdown and the military training to fight armed rebellion (including the National Guard), it certainly looks like the fit might hit the shan. In any case, OP is confusing Angle's statement of why the second amendment exists with a call for rebellion. At know time did Angle do the latter. Sure she's a cult stooge, and she should be eviscerated for that, but she did not call for rebellion.
Re: Sharron Angle - Threatening Armed Revolt? But if that's the case, who does she have on her side besides the SciBozos? Is she gonna arm people herself or just egg people on?
Re: Sharron Angle - Threatening Armed Revolt? Ah I see WWP's resident economic expert, US constitutional scholar, legal consultant, historian, philanthropist and humanitarian Major Boyle has made his most recent post in this thread.
Re: Sharron Angle - Threatening Armed Revolt? They are, or should be, just empty threats. But unfortunately there are a number of people out there who will take statements like this seriously and plan to act upon them, if not just outright acting upon them. It's like some radio personalities who say that an armed revolution "should" take place, and someone "should" take out this person or that. Then when they're questioned by the authorities, they get off by saying that they technically didn't threaten anyone, which is true, but they still have the intention of a threat.
Re: Sharron Angle - Threatening Armed Revolt? True. But we both know there are ways to really carry out this 'threat' if need to be... Plausible denial is what they call it...
Re: Sharron Angle - Threatening Armed Revolt? LD Sledge is a former Scilon Attorney, disbarred for applying Standard LRH Tech to his legal practice. Louisiana Supreme Court: http://www.lasc.org/opinions/2003/03b1148.pc.pdf He's currently editor of the "Clearwater Sun" - a scilon controlled newspaper in [guess where?] His editorials suggest he doesn't liek Obama. If there's more meat than that, he may have taken it offline. ..... Why LA Supreme Court kicked him to the curb? near complete neglect of his practice: The law firm was staffed by Sci interns- with no legal qualification and little training, who were left to run the entirety of the legal practice while Sledge: During this time, his only communication with them were occasional phone calls and weekly stat reports of income / expense. tl;dr arguing before the LASC, he blamed his employees for everything- including their lack of proper supervision. Supremes didn't buy that. For extra lol, check out the last two pages of the Disbarment proceedings PDF. <3
Re: Sharron Angle - Threatening Armed Revolt? somehow, the idea of scilons and teabaggers teaming up makes me giddy
Re: Sharron Angle - Threatening Armed Revolt? Not to contribute any tin foil since Sharon's batshit ramblings won't be leading to an insurrection any time soon but in the event of any real armed uprising, here or anywhere else in the world, who's gonna provide the arms is of little concern. It never fails, they always appear and in numbers high enough that anybody who wants some can just pick them up off of the street.
Re: Sharron Angle - Threatening Armed Revolt? Not to be confused with the real Clearwater Sun, a daily independent newspaper that unfortunately folded about 20 years ago. As smaller newspapers go, it was quite well respected in it's day and didn't afraid of cults.
Re: Sharron Angle - Threatening Armed Revolt? A spectacular and august explosion of crazy that would be seen from deep space. Though I believe Scientology will outlast the teabaggers, they have more cash.
Re: Sharron Angle - Threatening Armed Revolt? So you want us to stop making critical posts about angle in general even though she has been the subject of 900 recent news stories illustrating her attempts to throw our tax money at the church of scientology? You think this is a good idea? For reals?
Re: Sharron Angle - Threatening Armed Revolt? in b4 sharron angle starts calling anonymous terrorists
