Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

National Tea Party Convention - Nashville TN, Feb 4 - 6, 2010

Whatever your political views, this might be an opportunity to tell the delegates about cult which the IRS has given a special tax break unavailable to Christians, Jews, atheists, or any faith in America.

What say you, Nashville?

For your opinions of party politics we have this thread for you in the dome: Tea Party Convention begs to be crashed: Feb 4-6 Nashville - Why We Protest | Activism Forum

For this upstairs thread, please leave your own partisanship out of it.

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

I would like to attend :]

someone make a brochure design and I will print a thousand.

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

don't think they'll be the crowd for any kind of tax increase..... but scream CULT and forced abortions and government infiltration and special treatment from the IRS and they are in your back yard! and you'll have ears glued to ya.

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

Third time's the charm?

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

considering that tikk and maybe 4 other people on wwp are the only ones that understand what the tax issues really are, what do you expect Nash anons to do or say ?

(not trying to be a wet blanket)

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

This is a private event. If is wasn't, the local Conservative talking heads have mentioned this get-together before now. Opryland Hotel is private property with its own security force. You won't be able to simply waltz into this event and pass out brochures.
Protesting the event will likely mean protesters would be on the other side of McGavock Pike.

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

Taxing the cult is the complete solution for the national deficit and will balance the budget in full. Well, maybe not quite but it would sure feel good.

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

It doesn't matter what the Tea Party platform is; the mistake would be in potentially appearing to be allying or associating Anonymous with a political party of any kind.

It's also a distraction to drag arguments over American political parties in general into this whole thing - a distraction that can get very heated and divisive.

I think it's a mistake to attach a Co$ protest to an event that doesn't directly involve Co$; you'll probably be taken as protesting for or against the Tea Party, or just making people wonder WTF.

But... do what you feel, of course. ;p

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

You're right that it would NOT be in Anon's best interest to be associated with any political party, or any discussions of politics. There are plenty of web sites to express our political views. The only reason I posted info about the Tea Baggers, was to shed light about the corporate origins of this so-called movement in hopes that Anon in Nashville would see that it's not in our best interest to appear with them. Though, I believe the Tea Baggers are bunch of @!&# whackos, that's my personal opinion which has nothing to do with supporting to bring down one of the most dangerous cults of all time.

Thanks for pointing this out & I hope others get it.

I believe one of the reasons why Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) has managed to stay intact over the years is because of the groups policy to NOT be, "allied with any sect, denomination, politics, organization or institution; does not wish to engage in any controversy; neither endorses nor opposes any causes."

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

First you assuming that we are still recognized by anybody.

Second it would be a win if we could distract from their attention. No matter what people thought were supporting.

For anything regarding what political party if any Anon does/doesn't support please go back to march 2008.

But we would need to tie the issues to their cause before we could be taken seriously, and nobody in this thread has bothered to do that yet.

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

And that's my point: there's no direct connection to Co$.

You could protest Co$ at a PTA meeting using the angle that Co$ has schools and "Learning Tech" and all that crap, and teachers should know about it, but the connection of what you're protesting to the event at hand would be tenuous to the point of seeming... odd.

Plus, speaking of "tying issues to their cause" sounds pretty much like linking the protest movement to a political party.

I also don't think it's an "assumption" that you'll be recognized. The Anonymous movement has had worldwide press for two years, and Co$ watches the planned events here like hawks.

If you think you have a good protest angle or just want to make some folks aware of Co$, knock yourself out. Just saying, holding a protest at a Tea Party event has the potential for problems that might be worth considering.

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

It appears you do not get it?

FIRST, Anon is recognized as a group of Internet people that appose CoS!

SECOND: Corporate run & dictated, far right - Faux News, highly televises anything re: the so-called Tea Bagger Movement. If Anon Masks are filmed along side them, it will look like Anon agrees with the Tea Baggers.

THIRD: You go back to March 2008

FOURTH: I HOPE ANON HAS NO TIES WITH ANY OF THE TEA BAGGER ISSUES!

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

The suggestion was not to protest against the event. The suggestion was to inform the delegates.

Since this isn't a Tea Party protest, you can't just walk inside it - it's a conference for invited delegates. Even so, you can inform the delegates in various ways such as by handling out leaflets, or having conversations with them when they are outside the hotel. You don't have to wear a mask to do this.

If it were a Tea Party protest, anybody could join it basically. Even Code Pink and other "left" groups have happily been part of Tea Party events - it's more like the usual hippie convention, except with a right-wing slant.

Anonymous has taken part in several Tea Party protests to protest against Scientology's special tax privileges. It has not been a negative association.

This being an invitation events means that the mode of operation is going to be different. Walking around without a mask speaking to people basically - not protesting in any way.

It's not a protest for increasing taxes. Scientology gets a special tax break privilege that no other citizen gets. That is something that tax protestors are going to be angry about if they learn of it.

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

We need the TeaBaggers and the Far Left too. Inform them, I say.

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

We already do: We protest against an unfair tax break. The Tea Parties have unfair/high taxes as one of their original issues.

That is all.

Obviously, anons should avoid connecting themselves with the most batshit insane elements on the right or the left, but informing the grassroots of both sides is a good thing - be they Democrats, Republicans, Independents, or tea party goers.

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

YOU are obviously missing the point & trying to justify YOUR own personal cause!
The Tea Baggie's racist, bigoted, so called movement created by Corporate A-holes (WALL STREET) who are ripping off the America people AND THEY (TEA BAGGERS) HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CULT OF SCIENTOLOGY'S CURRENT TAX STATUS AS A CHURCH!



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Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

Remember when we used to keep the batshit crazies away from the protests instead of trying to recruit them?

Embrace the Baggers the way you would Truthers. They're on equal footing in the deductive reasoning department.

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

You have no idea about what the Scientology tax issue is, do you? Go read Sklar v. IRS. It is highly relevant to several of the original issues addressed by the tea parties: Taxation which people feel is "unfair" for some reason, favoritism, etc.

Also, corporations are also behind Democrats and support left wing grassroots issues - doesn't make them "fake". Ever heard about George Soros etc?

These are people who have concerns, and would be interested in hearing your message.

You fail hard by assuming that I am a tea party supporter. I'm not even American, and I've never voted for a right-of-center party in my life.


Scientology plays both sides in politics. We should INFORM all sides.

Obviously we should draw the line at stuff like overt racism, etc. but you're trying to paint a whole popular movement as being evil extremists. Well, guess what, there were plenty - hundreds - of people at anti-war protests who called for murdering politicians, and other such extreme kookery, but they still don't represent the Democrat grassroots - and it doesn't mean that we should shun the whole Democratic Party.

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

/whine tax teh "rich" feed teh "poor"...

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

I am all for going out to the t-baggers. But what we are going to tell them, is my concern. When people start talking about the tax exempt status they start sounding really crazy, really quick.

Just once I would like to see some video about the tax exempt status and not face palm 15 seconds in.

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

Try showing the the New York Times article, and a printout of the Sklar case. The point is: Why does the IRS have this unchecked power to decide to give special tax breaks to one particular "religious" group?

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

The Sklar case was denied, because they wanted to share in the unproven unfair advantages if any existed, the NYT article is 17 years old, and a little misleading, because they used David Miscavige throwing out big numbers at an event as a source, or it at lease seemed that way, but the problem is these people not only want to pay less tax, they want everybody to pay less tax.

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

You still don't get it! This is WALL STREET using misinformed Tea Baggers, of whom many are racist bigots & some are just plain whacko! (Trust me I've met them) AND YES some are really good decent caring people however, there are REAL grass roots organizations and groups they can be involved with! Its WALL STREET organizing Tea Baggers, by spreading lies & negative propaganda so they will vote-in politicians that support Corporate America and actually vote AGAINST their best interests!

Its about WALL STREET GREED & not wanting to pay their fair share of Taxes!

WALL STREET Promotes Tea Baggers National Convention
Wall Street Market News Official Blog

Bruce Donnelly President of SurgeUSA.org promotes Tea Bagger Convention
GDI-Solutions.com : Biographic Profile : Bruce Donnelly

"Unlike Tea Party protest rallies in public venues, this private meeting is on private hotel property. Disruptive conduct by registered event participants or any visitors seeking to create a public disturbance will not be tolerated by hotel security and police. Once again, this meeting is not a media event or a protest rally."

National Tea Party Convention - Nashville TN, Feb 4 - 6, 2010

I've read all about Co$ tax exempts & Operation Snow White and I'll say it
again, this National "Tea Bagger" Convention has NOTHING TO DO with Co$ tax exempt status. There are more productive ways to address Co$ tax exempt then being associated with the Tea Baggers. Plus morelikely you will get arrested as its a PRIVATE event.
I guess no media too, I believe to hide from the public what they're really about!

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

1st off let me just say. I am a TEA BAGGER, and I am not racist, a biggot, or a dumb redneck. And the rest of the Teabaggers are the same.
2nd I am new to this Anon deal but from what I am learning and the reason I joined it had nothing to do with politics.

There is a common goal here and that is to promote the COS as whack jobs trying to manipulate and hurt other people.

I joined this group for two reasons, well actually three. I think COS is insane and evil, I heard about Anon causing the arrest of a pedophile, and I like the idea of clandestine activities for the good.

So I don't want to fight about Ideologies. Save that for a political forum. This org has an awesome thing going that is pure. Let us not fight over personal beliefs. This isnt about us but about them.

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

Let it go. I need to do that more often myself. I'm in the same boat as you. Fact is most people here are going to disagree with the "teabaggers". As long as they don't bring it up neither should we.


Fuck it.

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

"org"?

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

Hey, what are your thoughts on the Acacia berry?

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

One good way to keep that from happening is not to bump a five week old thread, on your first post, just to talk about ideologies.

Try the INTRODUCE YOURSELF thread.

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

inaftertrolling.

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

Trolls are getting dumber and dumber. I'm starting to feel a little patronized. Off to a real thread.

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

not sure if this is a troll or not but problem with the tea baggers is the false info they are getting and talking to each other about. none of the information connects and they are just people that want to make the US a religious state as I've found myself coming to see... behold



and listen to the lady in this video that says evolution is brain washing at 3:50



you know what will happen if there is no separation of church and state? look at iran

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

Hey, you're the one started this off with "I'm a tea bagger." Teabagging might not mean what you think it means, lol.

Anyways, welcome, and keep that off topic stuff in yer pants, m'kay?

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

You know, there's no rule that your first post has to be about your preferred sexual practices, MrBlueballs. Or has to indirectly let us know you're gay.

You're here, you're queer. We're used to it. It's not really a political issue anymore, and anyone is welcome to join the fight against CoS.

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

Wat

The "tax issues" are:

IRS did not label them a bona fide religion, they gave them a tax exempt status to make their hundreds of lawsuits go away.

Unlike other religions, Scientology training is also tax exempt. Nobody else has that. Scientology is the IRS's chosen peoples.

Our government never enacted any laws to keep the tactics used by Scientology from happening again. They know this and are poised to use it if any rumbles about revoking their exemption start sounding serious.

I would think that HOW they extorted, spied and blackmailed the IRS into coughing up a tax exemption might interest that audience.

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

Did you say 'Patronized?"

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

Seems odd that the IRS's chosen people get better tax breaks than God's chosen people do. Think this pretty much proves Richard Dawkins right.

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

I knew I was gonna get jumped and that is ok. And yes I know what the Teabagger deal is. Like I said I am not a racist dude because Ill take nuts to the face from any color. I'm not gay but if I was and you were black, hey one teabag is just as good as the next.
But hey I'm a Tea Party member. And to introduce my self, I'm a guy from Texas in a big city and I wish the politicians would just let us all alone a little bit more. And I sure do not like seeing a massive group like COS out there using tactics like the politicians do to manipulate and destroy those that do not agree. I am not trolling. I would not pass a law infringing on COS freedom of religion. Besides if that law was passed it would take all the fun out of trying to bring them down. So I am in on us dismantling these bastards ourselves.

But to stay true to the thread. Most if not all of the Tea Party people would say, if you asked them about COS, that it is a crazy cult. But at the same time they are in a different fight and it would really be kind of a waste of time. They are fighting politicians and Anon is fighting a cult. If the Tea Party rally was public and Anon's showed up, Anon's would just become another faction of the Tea Party and that would dilute everything. In my opinion as a Teabagger it would be best to keep this deal on it's own.
Hope you guys can see me as a friendly who wants to be involved with this. And don't worry about jabbing at me because I can take a lick or two.

Can I gain any street cred with you guys by professing my love for Charles Bukowski?

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Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

Fuck your tea bagging tea party. If you are you going to stay true then you wouldn't be offended by this. If you are then I do care where you are on the political spectrum. Because you suck.

Re: Tax the Cult? Tea Party Convention. Feb 4-6 Nashville

As far as the Acai Berry. I have had it in a couple of Odwalla drinks. But still cannot see my member due to my fat beer belly. Or is that how it works? Should I stick it up my rear for different results? You guys tell me. You know I am dumb. I do know it made me crap like the dickens.